Prabhupāda: ...incidences are so described that anyone can remember. And by remembering these incidences, he becomes liberated. That is Kṛṣṇa consciousness.
Indian man: One thing I want to know, you see, when He was Supreme God, why He created all these līlās? When..., suppose He was sent...
Prabhupāda: What do you mean by Supreme God?
Indian man: Er, He was the Lord of universe. All the...
Prabhupāda: So He cannot do that?
Indian man: No, He can do it.
Prabhupāda: Then?
Indian man: That is..., so He has done. But as He sent Uddhava to Vṛndāvana to know about condition of Vṛndāvana people, even He was God, He knew it, no?
Prabhupāda: No, that is affection.
Indian man: Hmm?
Prabhupāda: That is affection. Just like you go to your friend, you know what he is; still you ask, "How are, you are?"
Indian man: Yes.
Prabhupāda: This is natural.
Indian man: Then he'll answer. Very affection
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Indian man: But He had also... When He was God, why He had some affection also like that?
Prabhupāda: Oh, that you must know.
Indian man: Māyā... I, I, I say to māyā.
Prabhupāda: No, it is not. Māyā mean affection also. Māyā mean affection also. Māyā has got the meaning of affection. Māyā means illusion; māyā means energy; māyā means affection. Just like we say māyā..., chele rupar[?] māyā. That is affection.
Indian man: [Hindi] affection.
Prabhupāda: So māyā means affection.
Indian man: But when He was born, why should He have māyā? When He is the Supreme God, [Hindi]?
Prabhupāda: [Hindi] Can you control God? By your wording, He'll not be affected by māyā.
Indian man: No, that means I have...
Prabhupāda: That is God. That is God. He can do anything. He is not under your rules and regulation. Māyā..., māyā..., māyā means... Māyā means..., māyā mukta [Cc. Madhya 24.136] means the illusion. When the māyā is illusion, you have to get you out it. But when the...
Indian man: But what is the differnce between the illusion and māyā?
Prabhupāda: Illusion is forced. But affection is not forced. When father loves child, that is not forced; that is reality. [break] [end]